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Title: MacIvor Connection?
Posted by: Donald Livingstone Clink
Date: 21 March 2005

John Molmore Vic Kevir mentioned in the 1544 Charter of Confirmation if I understand correctly is of the MacIvor clan,Duncan Maconlea of Bachuil's ancestor and that of the present Baron. This John McIvor's rights and privileges as keeper of the staff of St Molaug is recognised and confirmed by Achibald Campbell Earl of Argyll and in his position of Lord of Lorne the McIvors of Bachuil him as their superior. As Montcrief notes this McIvor may have had some military position in Argyll's army and the staff may have been carried by McIvor into battles undertaken by the Campbells as a source of protection against their highland enemies. Interestingly enough in more recent times, the staff for a time did end up with the Campbell family, before it was eventually returned to the Livingstones. 

I wonder if John Vic Kevir's descendants were among the MacIvors that became Campbells in the late 1600's in Argyll?
John Vic Kevir's family may have held the title of the Baron of Bachuil and their land on the Isle of Lismore for centuries, but the McIvors must of inherited the the title and land sometime between 1221 and the 1500's and not before, because the McIvors were not in Argyll prior to 1221. I assume then that an earlier family perhaps one with ties to the original family or kin to St. Molaug that were given the staff of St Molaug and land on the Isle of Lismore married a MacIvor. If these MacIvor's of the Island of Lismore became Campbells or by the 1680's then finding descendants today might prove difficult at best. I do think it would be interesting to trace the links between these Ivor/Campbells and the present Livingstones.

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